You send flowers, in memory of the deceased, to the deceased's immediate family. That is why there are ribbons on the flowers that indicate the deceased's various roles. Regardless of whether your specific geographic area has different "customs" on this, it was inappropriate of Cameron to send something on behalf of her former boss—a person who is neither her husband nor her boyfriend. She over-stepped. I'm glad Foreman and Chase stopped her. (Or at least, I presume they did.) Now, I'm done with that topic, for real. Mod Note:
In your opinion. Others have the right to disagree with that, which several of them obviously do.
Obviously, people have different interpretations about this and it's definitely veering into horse abuse territory so let's move on. Thanks, Fiddy
LightMyCandle- 10-15-2008
Wilson came back because he missed House and the fun they had but it seems like he's not wholly back to the old relationship. Nor should he be, either because of his experiences with Amber and because it should be fun trying to see them establish a new equilibrium.
While I don't expect things to be 100% normal between them by the next episode and I do hope they spend time showing a new balance between House and Wilson, I didn't think that Wilson was holding back at all in that last scene. He was being honest and putting forth a genuine effort. He didn't have any conditions or say he wasn't ready for this or that, or refuse House's offer to have dinner. Neither one could be back in the relationship wholly at this point because they just made up during that scene. It's going to be awkward and they're probably (especially House) going to feel a little cautious, but I saw no indication that Wilson's heart (no pun intended) wasn't in it.
extra_cat- 10-15-2008
For Chasers out there--yes, I'm pleased he actually had a few more lines than his allotted three, but did anyone else find it odd that he said he hated his father? He sure seemed to connect with him at the end of "Cursed." Or do you think his "hatred" grew after "The Mistake", realizing his father had deceived him? And as much as I loved House and Wilson in this episode, can I admit to being a little disappointed that this is most likely the last we're ever going to hear about Chase's relationship with his father?
I did think that was a bit odd. "Hate" is a strong word and what we saw in Cursed wasn't "hatred." Chase had been hurt so much by his father that he tried to convince himself he didn't care, but we saw he had failed miserably at even "not caring." Maybe they used the word "hate" because House had said he "hated" his father and they were drawing the parallels between them.
jonne- 10-15-2008
Forgot to mention this: these are the lyrics to MMMBop.
You have so many relationships in this life,
But only one or two will last.
You go through all the pain and strife,
Then you turn your back and they're gone so fast.
Oh yeah, and they're gone so fast, yeah
Oh, so hold on to the ones who really care,
In the end they'll be the only ones there.
When you get old and start losing your hair,
Can you tell me who will still care? (x2)
I love how every piece of music has meaning in this show.
melly- 10-15-2008
For Chasers out there--yes, I'm pleased he actually had a few more lines than his allotted three, but did anyone else find it odd that he said he hated his father? He sure seemed to connect with him at the end of "Cursed." Or do you think his "hatred" grew after "The Mistake", realizing his father had deceived him? And as much as I loved House and Wilson in this episode, can I admit to being a little disappointed that this is most likely the last we're ever going to hear about Chase's relationship with his father?
I'd say yes and no. Yes, it was a bit odd because we heard Chase specifically say in "Cursed" that he didn't hate him, he just came to the conclusion that it hurt less not to care.
No, because Chase obviously did care and he seems to blow a bit of hot air from time to time.
I'm always eager for more about Chase and his father, because I think it's a very interesting parallel to House and his father as well as a parallel to House and Chase's relationship in a way.
Poeia- 10-15-2008
When House started to break up, I thought it was real. But as soon as he took the DNA sample I saw it as an act -- it gave him an excuse to go to the coffin and kiss John. He had the nail clippers ready and hidden by a handkerchief.
Regarding Chase, in Cursed he admitted he had to work at not caring about his father and, at the end of the episode, he made one more attempt to connect with him. So 3 months later, his father's death was a huge shock. Since then he has had time to think about the fact that his father knew he was dying and didn't tell him, didn't give him the chance to say goodbye. And he also found out that his father cut him out of the will. More than the money, the symbolism of that would be enormously hurtful. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Chase had reevaluated their relationship since his father's death and decided that hatred was the appropriate emotion.
Either way, Rowan died 3 years ago. I don't expect us to hear about their relationship again.
ETA: Apparently the thing that sets Wilson off is endless repetition. In New Orleans it was a Billy Joel song; at the funeral home it was House saying "admit it."
Only House with his "no commitment or 100%" would equate his mother having an affair when her husband was away for who knows how long as "she hated him too."
Hugh_lover- 10-15-2008
I would love to talk about the eulogy! Such an important scene and written and performed so well. Could have sent the whole episode off a cliff.
I think House really intended to just blast his Dad's character and reputation, tell alllhis Marine buddies what he was really like. But he changed the course of his speech when he saw his Mom's and Wilson's reactions.
And no matter how much he despised his father, he did have to acknowledge that his Dad's parenting style did make him who he is today. Good and bad, obsessive about his job, about being right and finding the truth. And he did show some regret about his role in the family when he said "maybe if he had been a better father I would be a better son."
Totally agree with everything. The ending was so emotional. House was depressed not because his father wasn't his father, but because House was right about it and it didn't matter. His dad was his dad. However complicated his relationship, House's father raised Greg and treated him as his son.
House - the scientist - thought it would matter. It didn't. That's why the ending, where he says: "Wilson, my dad's dead" is so poignant to me. It was a weirdly courageous moment, in that House comes to accept not only his father's death but his father's place in his life.
There's no need for House to find the LLF. He had a dad, not a great one, but he was his dad, and House calls him 'dad' in the end.
I thought the break down at the podium was real. He obviously went up there with a lot of anger and the intention to get a skin sample, but he stopped himself and I think he tried to be honest, which led to the breakdown. But, I can see how it can be interpreted differently by people.
DOB1234- 10-15-2008
What I liked most was Wilson telling House he was right. The thing he would have loved most to have heard from his father. Which I suppose explains that scene in SoaCG as well. He wanted his father to admit he was not really his father.
Oh yeah, nice catch. That sure gives the “You were right” thing quite a meaning.
I'm still not sure why the officer cuffed House, but it's just one of those things I'll have to accept, I guess.
Wouldn’t that be the prudent thing for a cop to do in these circumstances? He’s just cuffed a guy for having an assault warrant out on him so it would be wise to not trust his companion either.
When House started to break up, I thought it was real. But as soon as he took the DNA sample I saw it as an act -- it gave him an excuse to go to the coffin and kiss John. He had the nail clippers ready and hidden by a handkerchief.
I tend to think the breaking up was real. House would have plenty of opportunity to get his sample at some point and since I think he was at first planning on completely blasting his father from the podium I don't think the near-tears would have fit in his plans.
NightOwl- 10-15-2008
I'm still not sure why the officer cuffed House, but it's just one of those things I'll have to accept, I guess.
Wouldn’t that be the prudent thing for a cop to do in these circumstances? He’s just cuffed a guy for having an assault warrant out on him so it would be wise to not trust his companion either.
You cannot be arrested for who you associate with! This is the United States of America.
If there is no warrant on House, then there is no legitimate reason to arrest him.
The only thing I can think of is that the officer considered House to be "harboring" or aiding and abetting the fugitive, James Wilson. Even though House wasn't the one driving and therefore wasn't in control of the situation.
Chiara- 10-15-2008
I thought it was fantastic episode.
I was actually interested in the case. The patient, though quite annoying at first, became moving, through the love her (adoptive) parents had for her.
As for House and Wilson,... well. It was a perfect road trip and a perfect almost-reconciliation. Still not boring.
House and his father was an interesting issue to tackle. I particularly appreciated the fact that, even though he got the confirmation he had been waiting for for so long, it didn't change House's feelings in the way he had hoped. Because the only man he has ever called "dad" was John House, and because the Sean Connery look-a-like will never be his father, even if he is his genitor. It was beautiful to see House, the man of reason, realise that even if John House was not his biological father, even if John House was not nice to him, he couldn't help but feel sad by the older man's death. For no rational reason.
Now, I am left to wonder if John House knew about his wife's indiscretion and if it was why he was so harsh on his son. If so, the guy was really a bastard for punishing his son for his mother's sins. If not, well, I suppose the "different times, different traditions" excuse can still apply.
DOB1234- 10-15-2008
I'm still not sure why the officer cuffed House, but it's just one of those things I'll have to accept, I guess.You cannot be arrested for who you associate with! This is the United States of America.
If there is no warrant on House, then there is no legitimate reason to arrest him.
I suppose you're right. I was just guessing that a cop would do this for his own safety. Does anybody know for sure if a cop would do this, or would he just say "Have a nice day." to House and take Wilson off to jail? (Of course, that would have suited House just fine and would have messed up the plot.)
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Bedawyn- 10-15-2008
Arrested, no, but you can be "detained" for several days with no warrant and very little justification and pretty much no recourse for you to argue it. I assumed that was what he was doing to House.
Chipmunk_love- 10-15-2008
Arrested, no, but you can be "detained" for several days with no warrant and very little justification and pretty much no recourse for you to argue it. I assumed that was what he was doing to House.
Right, and if the cop had reason to suspect that House was involved in anything with the fugitive, or was just pissed that House was ignoring him, then, yeah, he could detain him.
He also seemed to be a small town cop with nothing better to do. Idle hands and all...
travlncarrie- 10-15-2008
When House started to break up, I thought it was real. But as soon as he took the DNA sample I saw it as an act -- it gave him an excuse to go to the coffin and kiss John. He had the nail clippers ready and hidden by a handkerchief.
That's exactly how I saw it at first, but now I'm wondering if the emotional bit was real and then House realized he could use that to his advantage.
Switching gears: I'm wondering if House's mom is his biological mom.
Poeia- 10-15-2008
Switching gears: I'm wondering if House's mom is his biological mom.
Well, the POTW was adopted and the show often has parallels between the POTW and House. I assume that the father was a sufficient tie-in.
House: 30% of all dads out there don’t realize they’re raising someone else’s kid.
Foreman: From what I’ve read false paternity is more like 10%.
No wonder House was so ready to believe that it's 30%.
I think House was wrong about who his biological father is. Obviously Blythe had a one-night stand with an up-and-coming actor just as he got cast on the series Rawhide.
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