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jair- 10-14-2008

Yep, totally loved it. Thank you Doris, even if we do interpret the DBS differently. From her interview, I was prepared for something that to me seems a bit wonky about Wilson not being prepared to lose House, and yes, it was there -- but so much flowed in this episode that made so much sense that I'm going to go with it, as I had to go with Wilson quietly prescribing for House again after walking out in MLC. I skate over it in my mind and I will this one, too. Because, heh, Wilson has fun with House! Wilson met House because House was helping Wilson out due to Wilson having a burnout over his OWN issues! Wilson does consider House, in all his flawed glory, a friend! As is! No martyr. No changed House. Just two men, both flawed, who like and need each other. Thank you, Doris. And as mentioned above, the old and new team just gelled. I loved that Chase is still absolutely unsentimental about House (cookie coffins!) and can tell when House is covering up feelings, whereas as usual, Foreman is clueless and Cameron is projecting (nicely and not nosily--she was fine this ep). I also loved that Foreman completely accepts that whether or not he or House want Chase to do an exploratory, Chase won't do it due to the kidney issue. Quite a difference from when everything Foreman said about Chase was rude and related to Chase brown nosing. I love the new dynamics--go David Shore. I also loved the continuity with Taub, and PJ was wonderfully subtle giving us how tired and wrung out Taub is, but still totally focused on his job. Kutner had his ep to shine, and Kal Penn has that lovely touch of handling his scenes lightly but still hitting all the emotions. And Olivia Wilde was fine, with 13 continuing to refuse to rise to House's baits. I don't see Cameron clone. The medical mystery kept me guessing, but you know, what had me cheering was House and Wilson are believably and enjoyably back.

travlncarrie- 10-14-2008

Re-watching it...Foreman (towards the beginning, when House & Wilson are in the car)...mentions "pinpointing" the problem. I really, really liked this episode. The whole thing was made of win, but the only thing I didn't like was Wilson giving House the bare minimum of vicodin. And CC&F...like going home again. Chase, especially.

jair- 10-14-2008

I really, really liked this episode. The whole thing was made of win, but the only thing I didn't like was Wilson giving House the bare minimum of vicodin. Though House did guess that Wilson had no intention of giving House enough to allow him to escape from Wilson and head back to Princeton. Hard nosed tactics, but the whole road trip was, by both men. Since Wilson being there at all was such a huge step for him to take and so welcomed by House, I cut Wilson the slack for using vicodin as a tool instead of medication. It's been clear for a long time that Wilson should not be House's physician, but in this instance, at least he's being his friend.

LightMyCandle- 10-14-2008

I hate to bring this up, but someone please tell me that Cameron wasn't sending flowers in House's name? Please, I need to hear these words. She was doing so good with staying out of his business. Sending them from herself is one thing but from House? No, please tell me she didn't. At least there was no jealousy from Chase either way. Wilson has fun with House! Wilson met House because House was helping Wilson out due to Wilson having a burnout over his OWN issues! Wilson does consider House, in all his flawed glory, a friend! As is! No martyr. No changed House. Just two men, both flawed, who like and need each other. Thank you, Doris. Word. I'm glad Wilson chose to come back and it's not because House is needy (though I thought it was sad that House was willing to accept that as the reason so long as it meant getting Wilson back) it's because they have fun. He loves House for who he is. House's story of bailing Wilson out of jail was sweet too. I've always believed Wilson has fun with House but I loved hearing him say it and telling House that he was right. And seeing Wilson smile. I've missed seeing him smile. :D And Wilson totally calling the ddx, I was so proud.

NightOwl- 10-14-2008

Yes, LMC, Cameron was about to send flowers to Blythe from House. :roll: She asked which arrangement House would send if he weren't an ass. Then Foreman said, "I didn't tell you so you could send anything. I just wanted you to know the extent to which the man is disconnected from the human race." I love that Chase told her to send a coffin-shaped cookie, as Blythe would believe her son sent that over flowers. :lol: Why must she keep inserting herself into his personal business? Why does she try to take responsibility for social niceties on his behalf? (Remember even way back in Occam's Razor, she told the patient and his fiancé that she'd make sure House sent them a good wedding present? UGH.) Why can't she just leave him alone?

Ariadne- 10-14-2008

I have no idea what that Cameron/flowers scene meant. DE and DF usually write her well so it makes no sense for her to be sending Blythe flowers in House's name. Blythe isn't so delusional about her son as to think he would send flowers (as Cameron knows because she said "if he weren't an ass") and since she and her husband had met Cameron, Cameron could have sent them in her own name. Maybe she was trying to figure out what the mother of House would like. Wilson came back because he missed House and the fun they had but it seems like he's not wholly back to the old relationship. Nor should he be, either because of his experiences with Amber and because it should be fun trying to see them establish a new equilibrium.

NightOwl- 10-14-2008

I have no idea what that Cameron/flowers scene meant. DE and DF usually write her well so it makes no sense for her to be sending Blythe flowers in House's name. Blythe isn't so delusional about her son as to think he would send flowers (as Cameron knows because she said "if he weren't an ass") and since she and her husband had met Cameron, Cameron could have sent them in her own name. Maybe she was trying to figure out what the mother of House would like. Cameron: What do you think House would send? The "Gentle Comfort" arrangement or the "Warm Thoughts" bouquet? I mean, if he wasn't an ass? If she was trying to figure out what House's mother would like, then I think she would have said something more like: What do you think Mrs. House would like? The "Gentle Comfort" arrangement or the "Warm Thoughts" bouquet? There's no saving Cameron from this one; she was clearly intending to send something from Greg to Blythe.

vitawash99- 10-14-2008

She was indeed sending something in House's name. Which is the only way Chase's joke makes any sense, if you think about it, because Cameron would obviously not send a coffin-shaped cookie to anyone. If she was sending them out of her own accord - a perfectly normal thing to do - she could just pick whatever she wanted. (And if anyone was sending such a thing to House, I'm pretty sure he'd value cookies over dead foliage.)

Ariadne- 10-14-2008

No one (other than Honey) is that stupid as to send Blythe flowers pretending they are from her son, first because he wouldn't do it and and second because he was going to be right there to deny that he'd sent them. And Doris Egan (The Right Stuff) and David Foster (TB or Not TB, Informed Consent) have never written Cameron as stupid.

arizonamyrie- 10-14-2008

I do have to admit that I squeed with everyone else at the CCF scene.

NightOwl- 10-14-2008

No one (other than Honey) is that stupid as to send Blythe flowers pretending they are from her son, first because he wouldn't do it and and second because he was going to be right there to deny that he'd sent them. And Doris Egan (The Right Stuff) and David Foster (TB or Not TB, Informed Consent) have never written Cameron as stupid. It's not Cameron being stupid; it's Cameron inserting herself into House's business, just as she has always done--since early season 1. See my post above re: Occam's Razor. She has always tried to take responsibility for social niceties on House's behalf, like she wants others to see him as nicer than he is. (Or something.) Like she wants to insert herself in the role of his wife/significant other, as women are often the ones who take care of such matters on behalf of the couple. She even wrote letters to patients on his behalf, without his consent. He didn't want her to do that; she took it upon herself. It's tiresome for me as a viewer; I would think it's quite tiresome for House.

LightMyCandle- 10-14-2008

Yes, LMC, Cameron was about to send flowers to Blythe from House. *sighs* I thought so, greeeaaatttt. :roll: Seriously, please don't take her down this route again. It makes absolutely no sense for her to take it upon herself to send Blythe flowers from House. She's not his girlfriend/wife/friend, heck she doesn't even work for him anymore. Get over it or get out, please. I was liking her actively staying out of his business in the finale and even DCE she didn't really interfere, why must they go and ruin that? Ah, her personality changes so frequently from one episode to the next that I was afraid this might happen. Hopefully she's switched back to S4 finale Cam by next weeek. I just put together that the bottle throwing scene was sort of recreating House and Wilson's first meeting (well, I put that part together immediately) but it's like their second meeting. I mean, it's like showing a new beginning for them, they get to start over in a way. I really hope they don't drop this and have everything completely the way it was right away.

NightOwl- 10-14-2008

I was liking her actively staying out of his business in the finale and even DCE she didn't really interfere, why must they go and ruin that? Because people don't change. Because Cameron will never get over House until she gets away from him. Being around him all the time keeps her feelings stirred up. Hey, I get it. If I knew House in real life, I'd be in love with him too. But if he gave me the same signals that House gave Cameron from early on, I would realize that he's just not that into me, and I would do my best to move on. I wouldn't keep inserting myself into his business. I love that, in his eulogy, House says, "He loved doing what he did. He saw his work as some kind of sacred calling, more important than any personal relationship." That's like a parallel to House himself. So poignant! Then he goes on, "Maybe if he'd been a better father, I'd be a better son. But I am what I am because of him, for better or for worse." So powerful. I love this episode so much. One of my favorites, from all 5 seasons. Maybe my number one.

LightMyCandle- 10-14-2008

Because Cameron will never get over House until she gets away from him. Being around him all the time keeps her feelings stirred up. Well, then like I said, get over it or get out and since she apparently can't do the former, she should do the latter. I'm tired of her back and forth and I'm mad at myself for daring to believe she had moved on and matured. This was not only annoying because she was in his business but it made her look stupid. She herself acknowledged that House wouldn't do this ("if he weren't an @ss.") but she expects his mother to be fooled? Does she think she knows him better than his mother does? (That wouldn't surprise me, she's acted like the keeper of all House knowledge on more than one occasion) Does she think House will see the flowers and not deny sending them? WTF was she thinking? But that's sort of IC for her, I thought the kiss made her look pretty stupid too, or incredibly desperate, either way it didn't reflect well on her.

aenissesthai- 10-15-2008

It makes absolutely no sense for her to take it upon herself to send Blythe flowers from House. She's not his girlfriend/wife/friend, heck she doesn't even work for him anymore. Get over it or get out, please. Poor Cameron can’t catch a break no matter what she does. Yes, it’s true that from the beginning, she’s always handled House’s affairs in a secretarial way: emails, regrets for not taking cases, etc. But House is a grown man and a direct and snarky one at that, and if her tasks had bothered him from Season One, he would’ve put a swift stop to it. But back to this situation—wouldn’t Cameron be pilloried for inserting herself into the situation if she’d sent the flowers in HER name? Like, “Hi, remember me, Mrs. House? I want to be acknowledged right in the middle of your grief!” By sending flowers in House’s name, Cameron was doing a favor for Mrs. House by making sure there was a flower arrangement at the funeral with her son’s name on it. I’ve been to far too many family funerals and wakes in the past 5 years, and I can tell you that the older generation walks around reading the cards on the flower arrangements and commenting on the size of the bouquets and who they’re from. A flower arrangement from House would go a long way toward quelling the sort of gossip Mrs. House doesn’t need to hear. Of course, his funeral speech pretty much defeated that, but Cameron couldn’t know that he was going to speak at the funeral at all.

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